Merging this and two other mods?

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Merging this and two other mods?

Post  Snowpaw on Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:53 am

I'm getting back into NWN2 now and I'm currently looking into using the PrC pack as well as Races of Faerun and the Book of Nine Swords content. I'm REALLY having a hard time picking between them...and I have 0 knowledge about merging and modding. I actually had to ask for help on the bioware forums just to remember how to install a mod.

Is there any way I could get some help merging these mods together? I think it'd make a great package deal.

Also, if I play with someone over direct connection, or lan, can we use these modifications to the game if we both have them?

Thank you, and I'm sorry for being such a hopeless newb at this stuff.

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Post  Grim on Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:57 pm

Snowpaw wrote:I'm getting back into NWN2 now and I'm currently looking into using the PrC pack as well as Races of Faerun and the Book of Nine Swords content. I'm REALLY having a hard time picking between them...and I have 0 knowledge about merging and modding. I actually had to ask for help on the bioware forums just to remember how to install a mod.

Is there any way I could get some help merging these mods together? I think it'd make a great package deal.

Also, if I play with someone over direct connection, or lan, can we use these modifications to the game if we both have them?

Thank you, and I'm sorry for being such a hopeless newb at this stuff.

There's a few programs on the vault, though you need some technical know how for working them properly. Aside from that I've seen a couple mergers posted but I've only tried the latest merge released for the most recent kaedrins/rof and it screws up pretty much all of the text on kaedrins content (but the races work fine Razz). It'd of been nice if obsidian had made this kind of stuff easier, so that people wouldn't be forced to choose whether they wanted to use one good pack over another good pack :/

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Post  VeritasWaits on Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:15 pm

The big issue with merges is that the game can only reference one dialog.tlk file while running, and that file determines all the text and descriptions for pretty much everything (classes, feats, spells, etc). So as soon as a modder changes their mod and updates their dialog.tlk file, a merge file is longer accurate. Not to mention that some mods also make changes to the same file or script, which makes things even more complicated.

With that said, I have merged Kaedrin's pack with Book of the Nine Swords and got it all working. The BoNS mod gives very detailed instructions for merging its content with Kaedrin's specifically, although if I recall correctly you'll need to use a previous version of the PrC pack.

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Post  Snowpaw on Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:01 pm

Yeah, I know. I looked up the merger for the BoNS and PrC packs but I can't FIND that previous version. Kaedrin changed the foldernames so I don't know how to follow the instructions on the merge pack. If I could figure out how to make those same kinds of changes with the new version it'd be great.

I'm also wondering how technical it gets? I mean, the tlk file has just text and lines the text is in, thus the program references one specific line for one specific thing. This means, if I could make sure all of them match up propperly, which would be a chore but I'd be willing to do it manually, I could do this myself with no problem. Sure I'd have to edit the other files like the 2da and such for the actual mods, but only the part that references a line in the tlk. That's it. No complicated programming. Just make sure each file that needs text references ONE number and no file references the same one. Tedious, but doable. Is that basically all you'd need to edit to make these three packs work in harmony?

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Post  VeritasWaits on Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:14 pm

I'm certainly not a NWN2 modding expert, so anyone else should feel free to chime in here, but yes in theory that should be accurate. You'll want a tlk editing program to open and edit .tlk and .2da files. I always use this onehttp://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=NWN2Tools.Detail&id=15

In the recent PrC release content was condensed into fewer folders based on the file type, rather than the release number, which actually makes merging files for the two mods easier. Everything in BoNS 2da folder goes into Kaedrin's 2da folder. Everything in the other three BoNS folders goes into Kaedrin's scripts folder. Try following his instructions for merging the dialog.tlk files, but if it causes errors you'll have to go through manually and find out which fields are incorrect. Hope that helps! Let me know if you get it to work.

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Post  Snowpaw on Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:25 pm

Alright, I'll give it a go. The merging just says to use the BoNS file instead, but I wonder....I'll probably have to edit it myself.

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Post  Grim on Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:36 pm

yea I don't think races of faerun edits any of the same stuff kaedrins does (since kaedrin doesnt include races in his prc) but I've never touched anything modding nwn1/2 so even the standard modding tools felt like I was walking around in china without knowing the language.

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Post  Snowpaw on Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:37 pm

Yeah...that editor doesn't work. It tells me I need a Java Runtime Environment of 1.5....I play Minecraft, my java is ALWAYS the newest POSSIBLE. It's obviously a stupid program for not realizing this >_<

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Post  Snowpaw on Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:20 pm

ok, I managed to get this > http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=669 working and now I have no clue how to work it to merge these mods...I got the link to it from 2damerge, a non-gui interface editor here > http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=8 But when I open that one, the command prompt opens, then instantly closes.... >_< I feel like I'm a step away from getting these mods to work in harmony!

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